Question:
Is our western civilization on a decline?
2011-05-06 18:21:58 UTC
So I have been seeing some bad statistics lately and thought maybe people from the U.K. could help me. First off I am an American teenager and I am caucasion or white whichever you prefer. I looked at the declining birth rates of both white Europeans and North Americans and I saw the massive immigration to our nations by foreigners whether it be Islamist or Latinos. So my question is do you believe that with our declining birth rates and high immigration do you think our culture and way of life is being destroyed or not.


Please respect everybody's answer and opinions thank you for your time and answers.
Ten answers:
Araktsu
2011-05-06 18:57:36 UTC
You are mired in an ethnocentric worldview. You ought to keep in mind that people from the United Kingdom come in all the typical skin colors that human beings come in, and they speak a number of languages. The Welsh and the Irish for example are not historically English speaking peoples.



When you note "our Western civilization" are you including Nazi Germany, the folks who exterminated millions of Jews, plus Romas, Slavs, homosexuals and other targeted groups? You clearly want to include the Brits they were bombing in the mid-20th century. But the Nazis saw themselves as the foundation of all Western civilization.



Was the former Stalinist regime of Soviet Union a part of Western civilization? How about the folks they exterminated--were they part of Western civilization?



For your information so-called Latinos in North America are largely mixtures of two historical ancestries: European (mostly from Spain) and Native American (the people living here before Columbus arrived).



It is extremely naive for you to conclude that skin color and language are the basis of "our Western civilization".



There are many naive, ethnocentric bigots in this world, and some of them are militant Islamists. Bigots come in all colors and speak a variety of languages. You would do well for yourself to go the other way and try to see one simple fact that makes us all alike in our humanness: We all evolved from the same group or ancestors in Africa. There really is no such thing as race.



Please acquire one or more college level text on physical anthropology and read them cover to cover.



Also please take care to expand your knowledge of the history of civilization over the last 10,000 years. You are obviously missing quite a bit of it and would gain significant insight into human beings if you could acquire more knowledge.



You are also missing any insight into what socioeconomic factors affect birth rate. Therefore you need to get at least one college level text on sociology to cover these issues. Rather than worrying about the ethnicity of who is born, you should be concerned of how we nearly 7 billion people on this planet can shape our world such that we can all live here in optimal conditions. Currently we are making quite a mess of it.



What you take to be the best parts of civilization, those are the things you should cultivate. Unless it just means pink skin, English language. The real problems facing our species cannot be solved by making sure there are more English-speaking, so-called white people than any other color or language. Equally they cannot be solved by invoking claims made by an illiterate Arab militant who died 1400 years ago.



Try to concern yourself with the issues that we all face.



Here is an interesting essay on some aspects of modern history and the history of civilization along the lines of your concerns: "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jared Diamond. Read the book, or if you like see the video, but the book is more interesting. This may help inform your mind as to how certain aspects of modern history were shaped by geography acting on human culture.
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2011-05-07 00:43:05 UTC
It is a recurring historical fact, that all civilisations eventually start to decline. The factors that precipitate this can be many and varied, but the decline of any system follows a pattern which invariably begins with economic de-stabilisation. This we are already seeing.



A mass and steady dilution of the indigenous people by foreigners and their influence further erodes social cohesion, and results in racial confrontation and delineation. This we are already seeing.



It would be arrogant in the extreme if we assumed that our 'western' civilisation would simply blunder on happily for another five hundred years in the same old way.



If the Arab and Muslim countries ever stopped knocking lumps out of each other, and instead got their act together, and united against the West, we would be in serious trouble.
Ryan Malcolm
2011-05-06 19:01:34 UTC
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No.



Migrants tend to a vast minority compared to the "home" team. Birth rates rise and fall all the time, and your country has always encouraged immigration. Migrates are cheep laborers.



Your question is rather Xenophobic (which means fear of the Alien btw). Your culture isn't being eradicated, but added to and evolving. Remember, whatever you are touching, is touching you back. How many other countries are being heavily influenced by western culture? Look at how different your country is as to how it was ten, twenty, thirty, forty, fifty, (etc) years ago. You mention that you are white. Mate, if you read up on European history, you'll see very different white cultures going to war against each other on a regular basis. Islam is a faith, and as such isn't limited to a single ethnic group. End of the day, we all bleed the same colour.
gee bee
2011-05-06 19:32:29 UTC
In a word, No, It Is Not..!



Western Civilization is the benchmark (still) for the entire Western World.



Do you doubt this..?



Well, then, look only to Hollywood to see how the norms for fashion, culture and Media effect the entire Western World.



Clothing..? Look only to the Media to see how to dress 'properly.'



With Mass-Media Presentation, there is little fear that Western Civilization is about to disappear.
Rocky
2011-05-06 20:09:01 UTC
Personally I thing there will come a time when the races won't exist we shall blend into one.



Big governments have always failed in our history, and once again, we have failed to learn from history.



As far as "our way of life" that's funny, you mean the way of life our forefathers tried to put into place, that they never lived long enough to see it actually solidify. No I think that every new generation is finding a world where the teaching from their parents the previous generation either does not apply (like life long marriage to one person, big government, the house and picket fence.) Or they seek to upgrade to a more suitable society, trying to right the wrongs of the past generations, which alas we ar failing to right just so many wrongs for one generation that has yet to see why they are wrongs.



Like "made made things" over "God made things," physically easier life (in which we are getting fat and sicker all the time,) instead of a harder physical life, without dish washers, and other luxuries.



Our decline in birthrates is for now a choice, no longer must we have a dozen children because we are settling 500 acres parcels of land (which is also why stranded couples did not divorce. Yet seems few people have realized the choices of personal preferences that they have, we are just realizing that as a human race we don't have to "go along with the program because everybody said it's right" for we are realizing and we are speaking up, standing up to our elders saying, you are only human as I am, you had it wrong, and now I have to do what I can to correct your mistakes, how many are on board with me....



And that is where we are today...in my opinion
2011-05-07 00:17:44 UTC
If "western civilization" continues to convert people from other cultures to their culture, it isn't declining.





One needn't be white to be part of "western civilization." It is pure hubris to claim that "western civilization" is a a purely "white" invention, given that its culture borrows quite a bit from middle eastern, Asian, and African cultures.





Just because you were born white, doesn't mean you've done squat to help western civilization.
2016-02-26 06:00:53 UTC
Yes, but it largely declined because of greed and injustice. No one cares what's fair or right. People squeeze what they can get, and morals and religion mean little to them. There are great horrors in the world and great wonders in the world. It is for us to search for the wonderful things while avoiding the horrible. Keep praising God and following his word.
2011-05-07 01:10:22 UTC
It's a major problem, made even worse by the fact our politicians are mostly cowards who don't want to face this issue of mass immigration. All of the europeans (and their descendants in the US, Canada, Aus) are having children at a very slow rate, while they allow enormous amounts of immigrants to there countries who are proceeding to have children at triple or even quadruple the rate of the caucasians. Unless something drastic changes, countries like France and the Netherlands are looking at being majority Muslim within this century. In the US, non-hispanic white children will fall below 50% of the nation's youth population in 5 years. These are pure facts
Bored Guy
2011-05-07 08:50:17 UTC
Western civilisation is declining, all civilisations do eventually, but white people are not ceasing to be, anymore so than other races.
2017-02-17 16:23:13 UTC
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