Question:
Evolutionists- please answer these questions?
عا مر
2011-04-21 15:10:57 UTC
-Have any intermediate fossil been found among the 100 million fossils or so that have been unearthed to date?
-Can a single protein molecule emerge by chance? Actually the probability of this is 10 to the 950th power.
-Is it true that the Coelacanth, for years depicted as an intermediate form fossil, is a species of fish still living today?.
-Is it true that Archaeopteryx, also put forward as a missing link, was actually a fully flying bird?
- Did Ernst Haeckel admit that the embryo illustrations submitted as evidence of evolution were hoaxes?
-Is it true that the "peppered moths" (in the industrial melanism story), for so long proposed as evidence of natural selection as an evolutionary mechanism, were actually pictured by being glued onto trees?
-Can the information sufficient to fill 1 million encyclopedia pages that is contained in DNA be coded in the correct sequence by chance?
-- Is it true that thousands of complex life forms appeared simultaneously and with no forerunners during the Cambrian Period?
- Is it true that past civilizations depicted as primitive actually used highly advanced technology and possessed an unsurpassed conception of art?
-- Is it possible for it to be the unconscious atoms constituting the brain that ask these questions, think, judge, rejoice, feel excitement, enjoy eating chocolate or listening to music?

Just wondering... Not trying to convince you onto religion but just wanted genuine evolutionists to answer these questions.
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2011-04-21 15:29:18 UTC
This proves religion. Nice!
ob1knob
2011-04-21 17:12:43 UTC
Seems you're confusing biology, astrophysics, philosophy, statsitics. . .

Would you even read my answer ?

Never mind, I try.



-Have any intermediate fossil been found among the 100 million fossils or so that have been unearthed to date?

I'm intermediate between my parents and my kids, so are you, and so are millions fossils found.

PS. what do you mean "intermediate" ? are whales vestigial legs "intermediate" for you ? an bipedal snakes ?



-Can a single protein molecule emerge by chance? Actually the probability of this is 10 to the 950th power.



Amino acids can. Proteins needs just more time.

I won't call a 1 billion years process "spontaneous". Beside that, it's not proven proteins are from Earth.



-Is it true that the Coelacanth, for years depicted as an intermediate form fossil, is a species of fish still living today?.



Yes. This shallow water tetrapod fish split at the Devonian into a terrestrial lineage witch will led to all the tetrapods diversity, and a true fishes lineage with many genera and species that left an abundant fossil record from the Devonian to the end of the Cretaceous period, at which point they apparently suffered a nearly complete extinction, just like humans more recently. Nowadays, only 2 species remain. They have evolved into deep water fishes much bigger than ancient fossils.



-Is it true that Archaeopteryx, also put forward as a missing link, was actually a fully flying bird?



"Missing link" doesn't exist. It's either an ignorant journalist word or a creationist fantasy.

Archeopterix is one among several orders of flying feathered theropod dinosaurs.

If you could see a living archeopterix you would certainly call it a "bird" with teeth.

However, archeopteryx is NOT modern birds ancestor. Only one flying theropod order survived th K/T event and became birds.

I's not archeopteryx, it's maniraptor.



- Did Ernst Haeckel admit that the embryo illustrations submitted as evidence of evolution were hoaxes?



Not my domain sorry.



-Is it true that the "peppered moths" (in the industrial melanism story), for so long proposed as evidence of natural selection as an evolutionary mechanism, were actually pictured by being glued onto trees?



No it's true, except it's an example of natural selection, not evolution.



-Can the information sufficient to fill 1 million encyclopedia pages that is contained in DNA be coded in the correct sequence by chance?



I don't know how you count encyclopedia, but yes the information is huge, and no it's not by chance.



-- Is it true that thousands of complex life forms appeared simultaneously and with no forerunners during the Cambrian Period?



More than thousands man!

And yes, evolutionary radiations always follow massive extinction, and Cambrian radiation followed Ediacaran extinction. Millions new species evolved from the extinction survivors in a relatively short period of 100 million years (Just like we evolved 60 million years after dinosaurs extinction)





- Is it true that past civilizations depicted as primitive actually used highly advanced technology and possessed an unsurpassed conception of art?



Advanced technology: NO. technology needs a knowledge background from previous generation.

Paleolithic artists: YES Lascaux painters were great artists, maybe musicians were great too, but we've just found few instruments, no scores, no records.

But there are no much differences between us and Cro-Magnon : 30 000 years is nothing.



-- Is it possible for it to be the unconscious atoms constituting the brain that ask these questions, think, judge, rejoice, feel excitement, enjoy eating chocolate or listening to music?



Yes we are atoms, but we are more than just atoms.



Just wondering... Not trying to convince you onto religion but just wanted genuine evolutionists to answer these questions.



Religion is a way of life. I've chosen an other one. No offense.

God is an easy explanation for what we don't understand. I chose to ask, read, go to school. . . ans understand.

I gods are measurements of people ignorance, for some people, God is great



...very great.
2011-04-21 19:44:48 UTC
1. Yes

2. Yes, it happened. It was a rare chance based off of the right circumstances, and it happened.

3. Coelacanth was believed to be extinct, but then someone found out so they are still alive.

4. If that's what science says.

5. N/A

6. That is false. This actually happened not once but twice with the peppered moths population. Something similar happened with other animal species worldwide including East-Coast American squirrels. The forests were full of black squirrels, but after colonists arrived nature selected the grey squirrels probably because they blend in better with the diminishing forests. Now the black squirrel is 1 out of 10,000 and black is the recessive color.

7. No

8. No

9. Primitive is a relative term. Since Homo habilis, all of our ancestors have possessed some type of technology and culture.

10. Maybe?
icabod
2011-04-21 20:18:23 UTC
You're arguing the "Irreducible Complexity" issue. Most often it's arguing that a pocket watch with all it's gear is "too complex" to have just jumped together. It also goes on to argue for a "watchmaker."



What gets ignored is the process and time where metal was mined, refined and shaped, the glass developed and formed and the tools to put the watch together were created. Each of these has required thousands of years to be invented, refined and so on. The there are the earlier watches, clocks and timekeeping instruments. Again, thousands of years were required.



The human eye used to be another example of the "irreducible complexity" argument. However there are many proto eyes in various species today (eye spots etc,) One can easily show how the eye has evolved.



Go back to the watch. The"irreducible complexity" argument holds that if you pull out the mainspring the watch doesn't work. Pull out a human heart and the body doesn't work.



This argument has problems.It was first used by Michael Behe in his book "Darwin's Black Box" In it he argues against evolution by stating things can't evolve "by slight, successive modifications of a precursor system"



"The first part of the sentence refers to slight changes. Removing a whole part is a major change;

this is a major 'disconnect' between the parts of Behe's argument.

It is not true that a precursor missing a part must be nonfunctional. It need only lack the function we specified. Even a single protein does something.

The actual precursor may have had more parts, not fewer.

If the individual parts evolve, the precursor may have had the same number of parts, not yet codependent. "



How does this work? "Consider a cow's tail. So far as I know, the main thing a cow uses its tail for is to swat flies. Did tails originally evolve for this function? Hardly. There were tails before there were flies. Long ago, tails helped early chordates to swim. Going back still farther, some very early animals started to have two distinct ends; one end for food intake (with sense organs for locating food) and the other end for excretions. As a consequence, this back end, and muscular extensions of it, could also be used to help the animal move. This illustrates yet another important facet of evolution: not only single mutations, but even large organs may begin more or less accidentally. It also illustrates that biological functions evolve. Indeed organisms and ecosystems evolve. It may not even make sense to expect a precursor to have had the same function. "
2011-04-21 15:52:00 UTC
The probability of a super being is even more unlikely, don't you get that?

It's pretty simple.

Super beings are highly highly unlikely; with a whole lot of zeros behind it too.

You really need to catch up on some common knowledge.

Rain is a natural occurrence, the sun moves and burns without divine assistance, disease is caused by organisms, god thingies aren't talking to the priests/rabbis/imams. They're lying. Always have been lying and will continue to lie as long as you flock to their churches/mosques/temples.



EDIT: "-- Is it possible for it to be the unconscious atoms constituting the brain that ask these questions, think, judge, rejoice, feel excitement, enjoy eating chocolate or listening to music? "



Answer: YES, isn't that just so amazing, wow !! and it can even discuss the origins of life, wow!!



Second edit: sorry, thought I'd shorten the answer and not give a lame uneducated response to the specific questions. I'm not a biologist, but I took biology, I'm not a chemist, but I took some chemistry, I'm not a scholar, but I do read. And it shows me that everything that has ever been described in supernatural terms has been discovered to be purely natural. Every single thing. Not a single instance of divine intervention, or spiritual occurrence has ever turned out to be true. And everything on your list of questions appears to be how things happened. A lot has to be conjecture because it happened a long time ago (millions of years) but that's the state of the sciences, especially geology and archeology. You're welcome to join the sciences and discover more complete answers, but they're not in the bible/torah/quaran.
2011-04-21 15:33:20 UTC
even more unlikely



the whole earth atmosphere full of uncounted Hydrogen and Oxygen atoms and it happened just by chance that they al combined to form water each two H pairing with on O. calculate the change of that



the fact you are all wet proves evolution is false



PS your last Q how does the brain make US is the really great Q.



Maybe that is what brains do
davieguy
2011-04-21 15:16:57 UTC
you answered your own question and just proved evalution. you said that the odds of a single protein molecule can emerge by chance 1 out of 10 to the 950th power. so it's just a matter of time. eventuall 1 in10 to the 950th power will happen. so i guess you are right and i agree with you evolution happened.


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